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Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2017.02.26 17:45:02 -
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Akane Togenada wrote:Isn-Št the main flaw with war deccs that many 'newbie corps' have horrible leadership that doesn-Št want to lead their members but instead dock up whenever they get war decced.
Depends. If the war dec'ing corp has hundreds of members and unlimited resorces and the defender corp is a small, 10 man corp struggling to get ahead...I'd say advising your corp to stay docked is a wise move. Now 2 small corps fighting over system belts...That's a different story. That is what war dec's were meant for. |
Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2017.02.26 22:35:34 -
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Akane Togenada wrote:Charley Varrick wrote:Akane Togenada wrote:Isn-Št the main flaw with war deccs that many 'newbie corps' have horrible leadership that doesn-Št want to lead their members but instead dock up whenever they get war decced. Depends. If the war dec'ing corp has hundreds of members and unlimited resorces and the defender corp is a small, 10 man corp struggling to get ahead...I'd say advising your corp to stay docked is a wise move. Now 2 small corps fighting over system belts...That's a different story. That is what war dec's were meant for. I don-Št think War Deccs where only meant to be used like you say and as for small Corps getting 'bullied' by the big guys there are a few options I believe are preferable to the dock up one: Option 1: Get friends and band together for protection. Option 2: Get a big alliance to take you in under their protection. If you prove to be competent and provide them with a usable service it might be possible. Option 3: If you have no structures to defend (and a small corp shouldn-Št) just pack up and leave the system. I have been through quite a few empty high sec systems just waiting to get 'colonized'. Option 4: Though it's a bit silly just disbanding the Corp and reforming it again is also preferable to staying docked. Finally I do belive that the vast majority of high sec wars are not declared to evict Corps from a certain area but to get kills. If a War decced Corp stays away from Trade Hubs and their surrounding area they should be mostly fine.
1. If a new small corp had more than 10 friends they wouldn't be a 10 man corp now would they?
2. There is absolutely nothing a new small corp has to offer a big alliance.
3. Sure. Just pack up and move...I'm sure the players lurking outside the station waiting for you to undock would agree.
4. there are people in this very thread who think that shouldn't even be possible. |
Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2017.03.02 17:12:05 -
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Veyreuth wrote:A common point in this thread is that war decades create content, and corporations that receive war decks should be grateful for the content and fight. I don't think people who made these points would feel the same way if there was a mechanic that allowed players to force other players to mine or build stuff. Mining and building stuff is content, but if you're not interested in either, you probably wouldn't be interested in a game mechanic that allows other players to force you to do either on their terms. You might even lose interest in the game, because you log in to do X, but are forced to do Y.
Don't take me the wrong way, there is a place for war decs and high sec shouldn't be safe. At the same time, if I'm a miner in a mining corporation and that's the joy that I get out of the game, and I'm given the choice between PvP in a war dec or staying docked, you need to appreciate that neither option is agreeable... just as being forced to mine or run industry jobs isn't agreeable if you want to PvP with your time.
I gotta say, you do raise a valid point. PVPers can force their content/play style on miners/industrialist but not the other way around. I can just see all the rage over a game mechanic that says "in order to complete the war dec you must go mine 2mill units of veldspar or run 10 lev4 missions". lol |
Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2017.03.02 22:45:09 -
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Scialt wrote:Charley Varrick wrote:Veyreuth wrote:A common point in this thread is that war decades create content, and corporations that receive war decks should be grateful for the content and fight. I don't think people who made these points would feel the same way if there was a mechanic that allowed players to force other players to mine or build stuff. Mining and building stuff is content, but if you're not interested in either, you probably wouldn't be interested in a game mechanic that allows other players to force you to do either on their terms. You might even lose interest in the game, because you log in to do X, but are forced to do Y.
Don't take me the wrong way, there is a place for war decs and high sec shouldn't be safe. At the same time, if I'm a miner in a mining corporation and that's the joy that I get out of the game, and I'm given the choice between PvP in a war dec or staying docked, you need to appreciate that neither option is agreeable... just as being forced to mine or run industry jobs isn't agreeable if you want to PvP with your time. I gotta say, you do raise a valid point. PVPers can force their content/play style on miners/industrialist but not the other way around. I can just see all the rage over a game mechanic that says "in order to complete the war dec you must go mine 2mill units of veldspar or run 10 lev4 missions". lol Well... you could argue that any time a PvP player buys something from the market that was manufactured, they took part in the manufacturing process.
Nah not buying it. Just because I bought a new Honda Doesn't mean I had any part in it's construction at the factory. Helped the economy maybe.
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Charley Varrick
State War Academy
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2017.03.02 22:48:52 -
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Soloman Jackson wrote:I would have NPC stations charge a substantial fee for staying docked while under a war dec.
Will that same NPC station charge a loitering fee to all those camped outside?
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